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Program audio on/off button palcement

This is something I fear that I would accidentally mute the broadcast when changing monitoring audio source from preview to program as the mute button is right next to program monitor button and it does not have any second prompt on it.

So I suggest switching this master mute button to up so possibility of an accidental muting would be minimized.

  

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  • Or would it be better the other way around?
    That lower area also has Transitions and Replay buttons so perhaps better suited for program material whereas the top for monitoring. Also splitting the buttons might confuse some users. Also keep in mind that "monitor" button may change purpose when using Virtual Mic.

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      • Roope Berg
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      • 8 days ago
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      CraigS Either would work but then the monitor button also on the other side should be up?

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  • Either would work but then the monitor button also on the other side should be up?

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  • I would think even separating the icons would help to prevent the unintended turning off of the program out. Maybe move the monitor icon under the live window and move the program to where the monitor icon is now? 

    I personally would rather see the monitor option left towards the bottom as that is the area where I am working most with the mouse already and I do use the monitor buttons fairly often, but rarely have I needed (if ever while live) the program audio button. I certainly agree there needs to be some sort of separation though.

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      Jacob Cook and these are the challenges the developers face.
      Which way to make it easier to avoid selecting the wrong button without having to confuse the interface.

      Consider this is also presented in the Audio Mixer but the larger panel makes the separation easier. 

       

       

      Consider that if the location is presented differently in the Main User Interface one would also be creating an inconsistency. 

       

      Currently:
       

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  • CraigS said:
    That lower area also has Transitions and Replay buttons so perhaps better suited for program material whereas the top for monitoring. Also splitting the buttons might confuse some users. Also keep in mind that "monitor" button may change purpose when using Virtual Mic.

     Is it then possible to move the program audio icon in line with these functions? Seems that it would provide the sought after separation, leave the monitor and program icons relatively close to where they currently are, and still not require leaving the main screen? I don't have the ability graphically show what I mean, but drop the program icon to just above the layer 1 row, below the meter and shift the monitor also under the meter. Everything stays close to where they are now, so shouldn't be overly disorienting, I wouldn't think?

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  • Jacob Cook said:
     Is it then possible to move the program audio icon in line with these functions?

     Please do explain what you mean by this. 

    Jacob Cook said:
    ut drop the program icon to just above the layer 1 row, below the meter and shift the monitor also under the meter. Everything stays close to where they are now, so shouldn't be overly disorienting, I wouldn't think?

     I'm not sure the developers will understand the description. I'm not sure what you mean by "row 1" for example. The Audio Mixer doesn't have a "layer row 1." The Main Layer positions in the interface are variable. Sorry if the description is subject to misinterpretation the developers won't know exactly how to analyze it.

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  • Hopefully this graphic explains both. Let me know if I need to explain further. 

    Layer 1- I mean the trip row of shots. 

    I am not discussing the audio mixer. 

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      Jacob Cook The problem is that's not a static position.
       

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      Jacob Cook I'll see what the developers have to say. Started WIRE-18665

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  • CraigS ,

    Thank you. I appreciate your working with me through this. 

    I understand the layout not being static, and I will not begin to imply that I understand the development side of it so please don't think that I am implying anything of the sort or the ease of any of this. Just trying to provides some separation and not completely throw off the layout. 

    In the video you show, and I may just be missing it but I don't see it if I adjust it on my  instance, the relationship between the line you are grabbing and the existing icons doesn't appear to change. Just as the transition buttons keep their relation to the same line and the position to preview and/or live windows, would the icon not be able to do the same? 

    Also, perhaps, if workable, changing the colors of the program audio icon, to not match the monitor icon would also offer some distinction, even while working quickly. If the icon perhaps toggled green for live and red for off/mute instead of the yellow and grey, it would be enough, at least in the shorter term if changing the layout is more complicated or may cause familiarity issues? 

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  • Jacob Cook said:
    the relationship between the line you are grabbing and the existing icons doesn't appear to change.

     See how the transition gets closer to the 14.1.x Multi Viewer button (since moved in 14.2). It's possible they may become close enough to increase the risk of selecting the wrong one.

     

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  • CraigS ,

    Thank you for the clarification. I apologize, I was looking at 14.2 and the multi view buttons are not there anymore. So it did not flag anything for me. In 14.2 Beta, the spacing appears to allow for the icon to be safe, along with the transition buttons. If the multi view buttons return, I see the concern. In 14.2 there appears to be about twice the height of the icon between the 2 fairly consistently, which would be comfortable for me. 

    So as mentioned before, perhaps a color change of the icons if moving it doesn't work out in a workable fashion. 

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      Jacob Cook The developers need to consider where they're taking the UI since they may have more changes in mind. 

      Jacob Cook said:
      color change of the icons

       Of course, that may not prevent an accident from happening though.

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  • CraigS ,

     

    CraigS said:
    The developers need to consider where they're taking the UI since they may have more changes in mind. 

     Understood.

    Thanks for sending this out to them to consider. 

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