Recording invisible windows

Hi,

I'm trying out ScreenFlow and think it's pretty great but this seems like a big let down to me.  It seems pretty basic to be able to record windows that aren't visible.  I've used other apps in the past that could do it.  The only example I can think of now is MimoLive in which you have numerous sources ready to go (broadcasting app).  Each of the sources can be a different window capture that works even if the windows are minimized. 

I would be content with being able to do that in ScreenFlow even if it could only be a single window (like Skype is able to do), although being able to do it with numerous windows would be ideal. For example, I need to have a browser window open showing the student view of a website, while having a different browser open so that I can control that student view.  I don't want to record the teacher view but do want to record the student view.  In Screenflow, I could only do this if I had the windows sized down and just one was selected to record using the sizing box.  But what about when I want to switch to PowerPoint?  Now the process is becoming messy.  I need to have PowerPoint sized down to the exact same size and position as the browser window that I want to record.  

It seems I've come up with a workaround just by typing this message out, but I think the usage case that I'm exemplifying (wanting to record multiple windows of some apps while not of others) is common for tutorial making.  Am I missing something?

B

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  • Hi,

    I'm trying out ScreenFlow and think it's pretty great but this seems like a big let down to me.  It seems pretty basic to be able to record windows that aren't visible.  I've used other apps in the past that could do it.  The only example I can think of now is MimoLive in which you have numerous sources ready to go (broadcasting app).  Each of the sources can be a different window capture that works even if the windows are minimized. 

    I would be content with being able to do that in ScreenFlow even if it could only be a single window (like Skype is able to do), although being able to do it with numerous windows would be ideal. For example, I need to have a browser window open showing the student view of a website, while having a different browser open so that I can control that student view.  I don't want to record the teacher view but do want to record the student view.  In Screenflow, I could only do this if I had the windows sized down and just one was selected to record using the sizing box.  But what about when I want to switch to PowerPoint?  Now the process is becoming messy.  I need to have PowerPoint sized down to the exact same size and position as the browser window that I want to record.  

    It seems I've come up with a workaround just by typing this message out, but I think the usage case that I'm exemplifying (wanting to record multiple windows of some apps while not of others) is common for tutorial making.  Am I missing something?

    B

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  • Bart Lubaszka ScreenFlow depends on the OS/GPU relationship to display things that aren't used in other apps the can access hidden windows. We have Telestream Wirecast (a competitor to MimoLive) which can do that as well in some cases.) ScreenFlow's callouts and actions depend on the above relationship which is how you can control cursor for example. ScreenFlow can highlight the frontmost window for example. So changing that would allow for that window to be featured while other windows can be obscured.

    Foreground Window Callout. Includes Opacity and Blur as well as Blur Background. You can Zoom Up the window as well.

     

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  • I can't say that I understand exactly, but I suppose it doesn't matter.  I appreciate the reply and sorry for not realising that you have Wirecast.  I don't own MimoLIve but was trying it out as a possible solution to not having to edit much after recording.  I'm rather hooked on ScreenFlow and a huge bonus for me is that I can record a couple things at once--the screen, a video, my phone.  It would be nice to be able to do a couple more as well.  I'll likely get ScreenFlow as I like the interface. Thanks again. 

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  • Bart Lubaszka It seems you want to record picture in picture of windows you're not interacting with but want someone watching your final recording to see them.

    You can always make separate recordings and layer them.

    I may need a better understanding of why you'd want to recording an invisible window. You could just grab a still and import that since you're not interacting with that window.

    Perhaps you can create an example of what it might look like and why.

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  • The window I'm not interacting  with directly, in my above example, is showing the student view of a presentation. The window is changing because of what I'm doing in the teacher view. In another browser I'm in the teacher view, with teacher notes and whatnot, that I need to interact with but don't want to record. Think WiziQ or Adobe Connect. 

     

    But a separate question is about if it's possible to track multiple sources. It's  nice to have screen and video at the same time, but would be even better to have multiple webcams and screen recordings at the same time. Maybe that's beyond the scope of the software.

     

    Regards 

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  • Bart Lubaszka said:
    is showing the student view of a presentation.

     Ok your Adobe Connect example makes it clearer. Since you don't need to interact with it perhaps we can grab it using similar technology to Wirecast.

    Please fill out the feature request form with explanation and we'll get you a case number and research it.
    ScreenFlow Feature Request Form

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  • Bart Lubaszka said:
    would be even better to have multiple webcams and screen recordings at the same time.

     Other users have requested that. An example might be a music tutorial where you want to record the software on the screen, the teacher talking, close up of the teacher's hands playing an electronic keyboard to show fingering. Another example might be on camera on teacher and another camera on students.
     

    Use the above form and submit a separate feature request for this. The number of requests can impact development priority.

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  • CraigS Yes, that's exactly right.  Not having this feature isn't any kind of deal breaker because video editors aren't really meant to be recorders in the first place.  The fact that your software allows you to record screen and camera at the same time is already great, and I suppose the definition of screen casting software.  I suppose anyone truly needing many cameras should just get many proper cameras and sync later.  But any help in eliminating the need to find work arounds is worth it's weight in gold as far as productivity is concerned, and the fact that you care to listen is why it's so great to work with developers like you folks.  No matter what you label your software as (screencasting), your interface is fantastic and super quick.  That's what I'm going to pay for.  Thanks again. 

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  • Bart Lubaszka Do make sure you make the feature requests as the developers do consider them.

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