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More robust chroma key features

Lots of people use Screenflow with green screens, yet the chroma key controls are very basic at only 3 adjustments settings. It would be awesome to have some fine tuning capabilities: matte view with B&W adjustment, spill control, defringe, etc. Something approaching the controls in AE or FCP would be nice. Thanks! -Frank
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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Those are all good suggestions. Fill out the form and certainly make the feature requests. Those are good details on the settings you'd like to see.
    ScreenFlow feature request form

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    • Frank Stonehouse
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    • Frank_Stonehouse
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Thanks, I have already submitted that request (Telestream Case #00360367) in the past (May 2015), so I won't repeat it since it's already in Telestream's customer bucket list. I am guessing that chroma key feature upgrades aren't a priority, at least not for ScreenFlow 6 which was released today. I do mostly green screening and find the current 3 slider controls lacking for fine tuning, so I think I will skip this upgrade and wait for ScreenFlow 7. I still love the product for non-chroma key screen capture. Is there any way to find out if Telestream is interested in chroma key enhancements in the future ... since I never got any indication of planned enhancements after my initial feature suggestion. Keep up the good work! Love ScreenFlow 5 regardless.

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Frank Stonehouse sometimes some under the hood work gets done allowing opening the door to feature implementation. You should follow up in an email with your case number pointing out it's not there yet. Continued interest can make a difference.

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    • Frank Stonehouse
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    • Frank_Stonehouse
    • 6 yrs ago
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    OK ... for now, I'll continue doing all my chroma key stuff and green screening with Apple Motion 5 then import that in alpha format into ScreenFlow 5. Works just fine, I was just hoping to be able to cut that step out with the next ScreenFlow major update ... maybe if I keep suggesting nicely, Telestream will include it an upcoming minor update. Thanks .... ScreenFlow is awesome!

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Sorry about having to do a workaround to get the added control. We are working on it.

    In case anyone is following this thread and wants to see how it currently works, here's our tutorial. It might put the suggested improvements in context.

    https://vimeo.com/168418791

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    • J Kong
    • j_Kong
    • 4 yrs ago
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    CraigS Please improve the quality of your Chroma Key.  Honestly, it does not compare to Premiere, OBS, and other tools.  This is a major drawback of the software. I really like Screenflow otherwise. 

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 4 yrs ago
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    J Kong The developers do want to understand what specific improvements you want. Please fill out the Feature Request form I previously posted and detail the features you want changed and improved. Perhaps list features you're seeing in other programs you'd like to see in ScreenFlow.

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  • CraigS Ive tried to submit but your reCAPTCHA keeps crashing which is probably why there's been so few requests in recent years!

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    • Phil Maas
    • Phil_Maas
    • 2 yrs ago
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    I thought I could rely on this in the midst of COVID19 - preparing videos for school. Challenging to get it right. PLEASE fix this for next update.

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 2 yrs ago
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    Paul Allen said:
    your reCAPTCHA keeps crashing

     Try a second time. Seems to work for me after it crashed the first time.

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  • The poor chroma key functionality has me looking at other solutions...

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      • Jono Young
      • Jono_Young
      • 6 mths ago
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      Tracy Walker What other apps are you considering for your green screen work? I need to do some channel overview videos that require green scrreen effects.

      I am recording video from a Logi HD Webcam C920. I am testing iMovie and LogiCapture this week.

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    • Jono Young  I haven’t needed to use the chroma key functionality in the last 6 months or so.  But as timing would have it, I’m about to start a project requiring some gscreen.  Will let you know what I end up using.  
      I’m using Logitech brio 4K 

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      • Jono Young
      • Jono_Young
      • 6 mths ago
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      Tracy Walker I just tried my best, in a quick set up, with some decent lighting, to get SF10 to work with my Logi C920. If I try to add Filter > Chroma key, and then click on the video to select a shade of green, it 100% fails. The Chroma key settings do not have any affect.

      If I add the same filter, but do not try to eye drop a color in the video, it works better, but not great.

      I did a quick test with Logi Capture, and the results were about the same. LogiCapture offers a lot more settings and options. It might work for you - assuming you cna use it with your Brio. Logi Capture only lets you choose blue or green, no refinemeent on what chroma key should mask.

      Logi CApture with Chromar Key Off/On to give you an idea of the UI. Definitly not great. Searching for a better solution, and tryng iMove next just to compare.

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      • Jono Young
      • Jono_Young
      • 6 mths ago
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      …no lighting there, and green back drop is packed up, but you get the idea of what is possible. Not terrible even for lights off, but too much fringe adn no way to adjust.

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  • Luminance keys!!!  These are absolutely essential as the existing chroma keyer can't even change the color at all.  It literally does not change so I can't use it to key any graphic or text elements that aren't on green.  It's all well & good to think "well they should have an alpha channel!" but very often they simply don't, and that's life.  A basic luma keyer would save the day (or the ability to choose the chroma key color from an imported image!)

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    • Jono Young
    • Jono_Young
    • 6 mths ago
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    I saw that Screenflow v10 was touting better green screen capabilities, so I downloaded v10 today to test it out. I set up a large green screen and could not get Chroma key to work at all via Filter > Chroma key. The dropper let me select the color of my green screen, but adjusting the sliders had no affect, it simply didn't work at all.

    Automatic sorta' worked, but no good enough to really use in production-quality videos. It worked better in v9 for me.

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      • CraigSModerator
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      • CraigS
      • 6 mths ago
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      Jono Young Tracy Walker
      Please only test in ScreenFlow 10.0.5
      Please include Mac model as there may be a difference between Intel, M1, M1Max/Pro computers.
      Please include macOS which ideally should be 11.6.5 or 12.3 since the current OS in those series may be a factor.
      Also, you must include the steps to reproduce as there are a couple of ways to select the background.

      There may be an issue in selecting the key on the image vs using the Refine Key palate.

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    • Jono Young
    • Jono_Young
    • 6 mths ago
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    Screenflow: Version 10.0.5 (31892)
    macOS: 12.3
    Mac: MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2016)

    I think the problem I was having was that I was sampling a back drop color, BUT the White Clip was too low, or Angle or Tolerance were too low, so it look like nothing was happening.

    I took another shot this AM and it is working better, but there is some very confusing user expereince moments when clicking on video to sample a backdrop color. A lot of the time, it appears to do nothing.

    In iMovie, the experience is much more inline with what I would expect, where backdrop sampling is additive in that it adds the additional colors I sample to the masked color.

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 mths ago
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    Jono Young said:
    there is some very confusing user expereince moments

     It's trickier than it should be to select the correct point. If you do a screen recording of your experience I can present it to the developers.

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