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Still no reverse clip?

Really? Even after the years of requests from users and despite the advertising blurb about 'diligently working on the features that YOU have requested,' the programmers apparently still haven't seen fit to add this much-requested feature to ScreenFlow 6. 

Please add this critical component to this otherwise fine piece of software. Don't make us have to keep going to another program like iMovie to reverse a clip or segment.

Disappointed,

Bob deWitt

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Development considerations for some features may be different than others so prioritizing them is a factor. 

    If you've made the request already, send and email noting its absence in ScreenFlow 6 and ask for a status update.

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  • Hello Bob deWitt, sorry to hear of your disappointment. I certainly understand how this is a frustrating impediment to your workflow and we appreciate you taking the time to reach out to us. 

    As you have stated, this feature has been much requested by our users and it is unfortunate that it did not make it into the 6.0 Release version. What I can promise to you is that we do listen to our users. Stay tuned, we hope to win you back over.

    Regards,

    Rory Maloney

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  • Rory and Craig;

    I appreciate the fact that other features may take priority over 'Reverse clip,' that's obvious; but for five consecutive years? I think this feature was first requested at least five years ago and has been updated multiple times since, so I don't really see much value in updating it again. In fact, the last time I enquired about this, I was told--if I remember correctly--that it was under serious consideration by the development team. Apparently other features were more pressing, i.e. 'animated .GIF export,' for instance. I don't normally complain on-line about software development, but this is really getting rather ridiculous.

    Just my two cents.

    Cheers,

    Bob deWitt

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Bob deWitt sorry the wait is so long but some apparently simple features present some very difficult challenges. The developers really are listening to this. They're aware of the interest. Do stay tuned.

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  • I'll hang in there
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    • Gene Arnold
    • Product Video Creator / Mountain Biker / Sales Engineer
    • Gene_Arnold
    • 6 yrs ago
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    I was also kind of surprised that there was no reverse clip option in here :-( I think part of the deal is that (me personally anyway) folks are learning that SF is WAY more capable then expected. I came from Camtasia and find that SF has a lot more to offer, certainly in the video edit area. Though I create a lot of screen/training videos for work, I create a lot of product review and mountain bike videos as a hobby/side job. Camtasia has a lot to offer for training videos but not as much for the other (my 2 cents). So where I'm going with this is that folks like me are looking at SF for video/movie more than screen capture and training videos. Things like action camera adjustments are really going to have to make it to the product list soon. Stabilization is a must. Image tracking should be coming soon. And special effects like reverse clip are kind of a standard. This all being said I would have to ask the product managers at SF, what is your roadmap for this tool and your vision for the product? A lot of the features I think folks might be asking for are not applicable for training videos and if this is the wheel house of this product then maybe the features are just not a good fit? Your thoughts folks?

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    • sancarn
    • sancarn
    • 6 yrs ago
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    In case you wanted a work around, you could use KeyboardMaestro to create a clip reverser that works within Screenflow.

     

    Quite simply, select the clip, copy, create new project, paste, export to mp4, use ffmpeg to reverse the clip, and finally reimport back into the project.

     

    A bit long winded but it'll work :)

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    • Gene Arnold
    • Product Video Creator / Mountain Biker / Sales Engineer
    • Gene_Arnold
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Yes, I have been using some external apps to make do.

    • GoPro Studio for fisheye removal
    • Elasty for stabilization (here's a link to an example https://youtu.be/E0RIPc4Dqts )
    • I'll check out KeyboardMaestro
    • Audacity for sound improvements

    Thank you for the tip on KeyboardMaestro. I'll check that out.

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    For all those who want to see reverse clip please do fill out the form. Each request weighs on the developers prioritization.
    ScreenFlow Feature Request

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    • sancarn
    • sancarn
    • 6 yrs ago
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    FYI - KeyboardMaestro is a programming language (like AutoHotKey but for Mac), so it may take you some time to setup the programs in Keyboard Maestro. But it is definitely worth it!

     

     

    The above shows my KeyboardMaestro Pallet for ScreenFlow. It's pretty messy as you can see but it has some neat macros in it... This is my original attempt at the "Invert Time Macro" - It didn't work out too great sadly:

    To show how it didn't really work you can watch this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ9JCe6_COk

    (Original left, double-reversed right)

     

    Finally this is a really simple macro to reposition a clip into some default position. In this case I center the clip at 0,0.

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Thanks for that tip and intro to the program.

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    • Michael Glasser
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    • Michael_Glasser
    • 6 yrs ago
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    @sancarn 

    I do much the same with AppleScript and the free cliclick (https://www.bluem.net/en/mac/cliclick/). Might look into KeyboardMaestro though as well. Thanks. Also thanks to Telestream for the forum to share such ideas. :)

    Also, I have used your reverse clip suggestion, or something close to it, but the colors were off when I brought it back in. Would love to have it in the program itself.

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Keep ratting the cages with the feature request. Make sure everyone on this thread submits it.

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    • sancarn
    • sancarn
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Michael Glasser How interesting! I never knew there were alternatives to KM but CliClick looks right up my street! I always did prefer "Scripting" to Clicking through GUIs. I'll look into it :) Thanks for the heads up! (Applescript is also good for that too I guess)

    > Also, I have used your reverse clip suggestion, or something close to it, but the colors were off when I brought it back in.

    Curious... I can't see why something like that would happen... I've only ever tried the technique once, and doing so manually. I never got round to making it a full macro for it. One of these days I will I assume. 

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    • Michael Glasser
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    • 6 yrs ago
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    sancarn 

    I used it just the other day to create my first animated GIF with the new ScreenFlow.  For other people made a quick "making of" video - will share it here in case it inspires anyone else:

    https://youtu.be/X468EdllTg0

    You can see the script I used to automate Numbers. From there was able to record it and crop it as I wanted... and add an overlay to get rid of the "120%" line, fade from one clip to the next, change the speed to 400%, etc. All the easy goodies I am very thankful to have ScreenFlow for. 

    I will say the saved GIF from ScreenFlow was not as high quality as I would like. Ended up saving it as a ProRes video and then converting with a different tool to an animated GIF.

    Hmmm, should submit that as a bug report / update request. 

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Michael Glasser definitely submit the GIF quality issue as a bug. If you have a "competing" example showing expected quality that would help the developers understand what you expect.

    BTW you may want to post the "making off" in ScreenFlow Discussions as a Tip/Trick tutorial. As a New Topic you can embed the YouTube video too (feature of the new forum).

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    • Michael Glasser
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    • Michael_Glasser
    • 6 yrs ago
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    CraigS Will do.

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Michael Glasser Thanks.

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    • sancarn
    • sancarn
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Michael Glasser Lol... How is it that I did a pretty much identical thing to you with charts recently...

    https://youtu.be/yFx9pMcmUKw

    I'm not super surprised when it comes down to exporting as a GIF because they aren't really designed for video. But it would be a lot easier with GIFs for sure! :)

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Michael posted it as a tip over here
    So it might be good to continue there so readers can follow it under a title that might attract users looking at scripting.

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    • Michael Glasser
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    • Michael_Glasser
    • 6 yrs ago
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    sancarn 

    Curious as to what software you used. Is that Excel you scripted to do that? Might be best to respond in the link CraigS gave to keep the conversation limited to one place. :)

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  • One more vote for reverse clip functionality.  

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Rob Roberts make sure you fill out the Feature Request form I posted previously. Those are the votes the developers count.

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  • Yep.  Filled out a feature request.

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  • All I can say is "don't hold your breath for this to happen." This feature has been requested formally for years, but still no love from the programmers. Must be much harder to implement than it would appear.

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