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Audio Mixer recommendations for Church/Worship Group

I need help deciding what audio mixer I should purchase for my church/worship group which has been livestreaming since covid. My current setup is an allen & heath zed 16fx which is what we use for front of house sound. For streaming I send an aux out from the allen and heath into a smaller mackie mixerwhich is the board I normally use for streaming other events. This setup is a pain in the butt. So what board do you recommend or what features should I be looking for when researching boards.

 

Thanks, Robby

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  • Perhaps describe your complete setup, number of audio sources etc. Is your goal to be able to create sub-mixes for streaming and other purposes or a certain number of inputs (and types of inputs) you need?

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      • 3 mths ago
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      CraigS we basically have our current board inputs maxed out so we were looking at upgrading to a 32 channel board. For our worship group we have roughly 5 singers, 2 guitars, electric drum set, 1 keyboard, 1 cajon, 1 wireless handheld mic. We haven't actually done any streaming for our worship group which is a group of kids at school. I don't see anyway I could pull it off with our current setup. We do stream our church services weekly which consists of 2 keyboards & 2 mics for the keyboard players, 1 podium mic for our worship leader, 1 wireless mic for our pastor, 2 wireless handheld mics for prayer requests for church members. Even this simple setup is difficult at least for me and here is why. I control front of house sound so I am generally making minor adjustments on the faders. If I have someone helping monitor and control the stream audio and they have to make adjustments they are now having to reach over me trying to find small knobs to control different aux mixes which is difficult to do. The other issue and maybe it is user error it is very difficult to keep a consistent level. If there is talking and I turn the aux up it sounds good but the second they start singing it is way too loud. The other thing I don't like is I have too many controls for ex. I have an aux level control for each channel on the main board, then I have a overall aux level control knob for the entire aux channels on the main board, then the streaming board has a gain control as well as the master control. Again it may be me but I can't seem to get good consistent control of the sound. I am thinking a digital board that would give the front of house and streaming full independence from one another. I don't want my front of house adjustments to have any effect on the stream nor the stream adjustments to have any effect on the front of house. I really don't know what others are using so I am hoping you or someone else can help.

       

      Thanks, Robby 

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  • Robby said:
    The other issue and maybe it is user error it is very difficult to keep a consistent level.

     Perhaps you need a board with a built-in compressor.

    It seems you'd need an easy way to do a house mix and a separate stream mix.

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      • 3 mths ago
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      CraigS I agree with both statements. any suggestions 

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      • 3 mths ago
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      Robby Narrowed down to 18 options so far.

      I could see using two boards depending on your room layout in which the room mixer can take direct outs (unprocessed) into the stream mixer.

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      • 3 mths ago
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      CraigS I'll look at the list. I wasn't sure if using the wirecast audio mixer would be of any use or if implementing dante would be beneficial.  I'd prefer to not have 2 boards if possible.  I'd really like to know what others are doing for the most efficient work flow.

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      Robby said:
      I wasn't sure if using the wirecast audio mixer would be of any use

       The one thing to be aware of with Wirecast Audio Mixer is that the channels are only visible and adjustable on sources that are live. There's no "preview" functionality for the mixer. 

       

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  • Robby said:
    implementing dante would be beneficial

     Dante Virtual Sound Card. We have customers doing just that. Keep in mind your need for signal processing (compressor for example) and integrating that. 

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  • I don’t know if this will help you but we are using a Behringer X32 Digital mixer for the House mix at our church.

    Utilizing the X-32 app on a second monitor on our Windows 10 streaming computer, we build our streaming mix on an Aux channel of the X32 then feed that to a high impedance input on a small Behringer mixer (Xenyx 12) at the stream desk. Very light compression is applied to the mix off the X32 as it leaves the Aux channel. The small mixer has a couple of mic inputs dedicated to ambient noises in the house such as congregational singing. Those mics do not run through the X32.

    The Xenyx has a USB output we use to plug the audio into the stream computer. We mix and monitor audio at the stream desk with acoustically-sealed earbuds running through a switch that allows us to listen to the mix coming from the X32 or to monitor the audio on our stream. Our stream desk is partially isolated acoustically from the house which helps setting up the mix.

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      • 7 days ago
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      Larry Badger Thanks for that workflow tip.

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