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ScreenFlow Export Looks Dull and Losses Crispness

I know, another export question!

My video is looking great in Screenflow. Once exported it looks duller and loses crispness.

I have my project the same size as the screen resolution 2560 x 1440, and the export is the same 2560 x 1440.

The attached screenshot is Screenflow side by side with my export playing back in Quicktime. The left Screenflow grab is brighter and clearer.

I also added my export settings.

• Apple 27" iMac 2020
• OS version = 11.6
• ScreenFlow version 8.2.6
• Recording from my internal screen
• Scratch disk location is Startup Volume
• Free hard drive space = more than 40%
• Number of Monitors = 1
• Attached export settings screenshot 

Please help

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    • CraigSModerator
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    • CraigS
    • 6 mths ago
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    Matt Foster Default said:
    • OS version = 11.6 • ScreenFlow version 8.2.6

     8.2.6 is not Big Sur compatible. The current version being developed is 10 so you should upgrade. 

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    • CraigS Okay thanks, would that 100% improve the export quality?

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    • CraigS I just tried a demo of 10 and had the same slightly dull and slightly fuzzy export...

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      • 6 mths ago
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      Matt Foster Default It depends what you're comparing it to and what your export settings are.
      ProRes will give you better resolution than H.264 generally.

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    • CraigS I am comparing it to what the video looks like in Screenflow, as in my screenshot of side by side. You can see that the right export is darker....

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      • 6 mths ago
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      Matt Foster Default It's hard to determine quality from a screenshot like that as it's be scaled and compressed. 

      You'd want to compare comparable images which may be a Quicktime screen recording vs a

      ScreenFlow screen recording or the recording in ScreenFlow vs the exported file.
      The image processing chains should be similar. 

      The best image quality would involve changing ScreenFlow Preferences Advanced to Lossless for best quality recording and then Lossless ProRes.

      H.264 compression is inherently lossy so there will be resolution loss. Comparing that to a Quicktime screen recording with H.264 export would be comparable.

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    • CraigS yes true it seems uploading the screengrabs also distorts it, mmmm not sure what to do. Might look at a ScreenFlow alternative.

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  • I tried Pro Res and despite the much larger files size it is still dark and fuzzy

    This is the pro res export

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  • This is grabbed from Screenflow, you can see where it is brighter and sharper.

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      • 6 mths ago
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      Matt Foster Default 

      On the left is a Quicktime H.264 export. On the right is a ScreenFlow H.264 export.
      Both full screen. ScreenFlow set to Slowest using the automated export setting (no customization other than 100%

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      • CraigSModerator
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      • 6 mths ago
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      Matt Foster Default The issue is how you're comparing. See how they match in my screenshot.

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    • CraigS Are your screenshots not the same as in my first post? Side by side?

      I'm just trying to figure out why my export, at any setting, ProRes, Lossless all look darker and fuzzy compared to what i am viewing on ScreenFlow?

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      Matt Foster Default 
      This is GarageBand interface same comparison.
       

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      Matt Foster Default 
      The previous images were from my MBP running Monterey
      This from my 27" iMac running Big Sur (same OS as yours) checking to see if the OS makes a difference.
      Left a screenshot in ScreenFlow. Right from ScreenFlow H.264 export slowest.
       

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      • 6 mths ago
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      Matt Foster Default Perhaps it's display setting and scaling in ScreenFlow are impacting the difference between ScreenFlow Canvas and your ScreenFlow Export.

      Again the best comparison would be comparing Quicktime screen recording vs ScreenFlow export.

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    • 6 mths ago
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    Matt Foster Default said:
    all look darker and fuzzy compared to what i am viewing on ScreenFlow?

     This is screenshot in ScreenFlow on left vs a frame of the exported file.
     

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    • Thanks CraigS I think I may have found a solution, recording in to v10 rather than v8 seems to be an improvement. GOing to run some tests.

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    Matt Foster Default said:
    Might look at a ScreenFlow alternative.

     Compare to Quicktime since that's Apple's native recording and exporting as I did.

    I tested on macOS 11.6.4 (iMac) and 12.2.1 (MBP).

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    • 6 mths ago
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    Matt Foster Default said:
    I have my project the same size as the screen resolution 2560 x 1440, and the export is the same 2560 x 1440.

     

    Matt Foster Default said:
    Apple 27" iMac 2020

     Hmm, The 2020 27" iMac is 5120 x 2880
    Your settings show 100% but your size is half that.

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    • 6 mths ago
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    Matt Foster Default said:
    I think I may have found a solution, recording in to v10 rather than v8 seems to be an improvement. GOing to run some tests.

     10 is definitely better than 8. In fact, one of the issues we improved on is color fidelity. There definitely was an issue in 8.

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    • CraigS Thanks for your help, I think you have pointed me in the right direction

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      Matt Foster Default You're welcome of course. Sorry about any confusion.

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  • I recorded a Live Virtual Jazz concert in Screenflow from a video feed they sent and I used with the resolution of 4096 x 2304 on my 27" monitor 5K Retina display.  What export settings should I use to get the best sound and picture when I play it via AirPlay on my Apple TV?  I'm using ScreenFlow 10.0.5

    Thanks,

    Dr. Alan

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      Alan Weinstein Is the AppleTV HD or 4K and is it attached to an HD or 4K TV?
      4K generally requires a higher bit rate than HD.
      If you go to Export Manual there's an AppleTV preset but you have to choose the correct frame size.

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