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Makers Linear not Relational?

So I was using SF and came across this issue.  I create a marker 

  1. by adding it to the entire timeline
  2. by adding it to the clip itself.

Overview

  • I would like to utilize markers as place holders to navigate clips within screenflow.  Currently you are able to use them at a linear level but not a relational level.  I'd like to speed up the clip and still have the markers at that point in time.

Desire:

  • The marker to be relational to the linear timeline.  Specifically if i have a 10 minute clip duration I mark it at 6 minutes.  Then speed up the clip by 200%.  The  marker should remain at the 6 minute mark on the clip.

Actual

  • The marker remains at the linear timeline of the entire clip and not at the relational time.  So the marker should remain at the same relative location. This makes it impossible because the markers are not connected to the clip anymore.
    • Also, The marker remains at the linear timeline of the entire clip at the 6 minutes and gets truncated. When the 10 minute clip is now 5 minutes.

Question:

  • How do I go about doing the desired above?
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  • Can you name any other editor that supports this relational behavior?

    To the best of my knowledge, most editing programs have clip markers and timeline markers.
    Timeline markers always stay at a given point.
    Clip markers always stay at the same point on the clip.

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    I'd say if you allowing markers per clips then the marker should be attached to the clip timeline not the global timeline.

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  • Gavin said:
    Final cut Pro

     I use FCP as well and the markers don't seem to behave as you describe here

    Gavin said:
    Specifically if i have a 10 minute clip duration I mark it at 6 minutes.  Then speed up the clip by 200%.  The  marker should remain at the 6 minute mark on the clip.

     In FCP a clip marker moves. It does not remain at the 6-minute mark.

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      • Gavin
      • 2 days ago
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      CraigS Odd i guess my recall was off.

      However, it would be a great feature to have or some type of work around so the markers remain with the actual clip timeline if possible.

      or is there a workaround?

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      • CraigS
      • 2 days ago
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      Gavin There's some work being done on Markers relating to frames vs timeline frame rate. I can't say whether it will improve in the area you're looking at though. See this. It's being improved.

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  • Unsure if this would address it because if you speed up the clip would the markers still remain relational to the clip?  It seems they would not but remain relational to the timeline.

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      • CraigS
      • yesterday
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      Gavin Currently the Marker points to the frame count which changes with the time base. If it sticks to the time base it would be an improvement. 

      Keep in mind normal use is that Markers attached to Timeline will stay in place regardless of the clip. Markers attached to the clip are going to stay attached to a given frame if the speed changes.

      If you speed up a clip, a point in time for the clip may no longer exist. A 2-minute clip sped up so it's 1 minute long, no longer has anything beyond 1 minute.
       

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