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Replay Clip In & Out Points not Filling the Preview Window Timeline

Hello,

I am new to Wirecast so I apologize if my questions are obvious or have been answered before.  I am trying to get up to speed on straight forward replay usage and have come across a situation that I would like to be different but do not know if I am causing it or is the way the program should be.

My replay settings are 10 seconds for the default maximum and 10 seconds at 50% for the duration.

I notice that as I do  more replays, the clip in and out points under the preview window get smaller and smaller.  The yellow/orange area decreases and the surrounding gray area gets larger.  This makes it more difficult to click on and adjust the starting point of a replay clip.  (See attachment).

In my mind, the 10 second clip when selected should always fill the preview window timeline with 100% yellow/orange.  Why would the gray need to be shown as the clip is only 10 seconds out of the longer live footage?

For learning purposes, I am using an mp4 file as my source.  Maybe this is different in a live streaming scenario?

Thanks for your help. 

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  • The replay is only a portion of the entire replay recording. The little magnifying glass with the + symbol will allow you to zoom the replay timeline.

    The entire recording is there just in case you want to change the in and out points while in the preview window. Sometimes you may decide you want to show more at the head for example.

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  • Hi Craig.  Thanks for your reply.  I remember you from the DVInfo days and also on DVXUser.

    My hope was to be able to quickly adjust the in point of the replay clip and start it in a live sports situation.  Trying to keep the clicking to a minimum.  The timeline zoom resets after each clip so I do not think that will be a good long term approach through a game.

    So i should ask, what is the best way to cue up replays in a fast paced live environment?

    I am creating the replay after the play has occurred, so it is difficult to nail the beginning of the play.  So some in point adjustment needs to take place for the replay to be succinct.

    In my mind, the user seems to be able to set the "gray area" in the replay settings (maximum duration) but the program is still showing the entire ISO recording. ?  I am not sure why all of the gray needs to be represented in a replay environment when the user can specify how much extra record space they need with the duration of the replay setting.

    Thanks and sorry for being 'that way' :)

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  • Tim Polster said:
    My hope was to be able to quickly adjust the in point of the replay clip and start it in a live sports situation. 

     Perhaps we need a zoom to fit function. Keep in mind some users may want the room to adjust the inpoint or change the in and out entirely. 

    Tim Polster said:
    So i should ask, what is the best way to cue up replays in a fast paced live environment?

     Are you trying to adjust in and out points and looking for finer control and therefore want to zoom in?

    Have you tried adjusting these settings?
    In the below example it's a one-minute recording with a 30-second replay duration so you may not get the long file. If it's Unlimited you're going to get that long-growing file.
      

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  • Tim Polster said:
    I remember you from the DVInfo days and also on DVXUser.

     Yup, I'm the same Craig from those forums. I'm also on Creative COW.

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  • Hi Craig.  What I am looking for is a 5-10 second clip (probably slow motion) that I will need to adjust the in point to remove dead space before the play.  I have adjusted the two settings you mention.  In my screenshot these settings were set to 10 seconds on both.  Yet the gray area is still showing a much longer clip area  It seems they do not affect the preview timeline.

    Zoom to fit or just adhering to the setting preferences the user set would solve the issue.  Extra time might be useful for using the clips after the broadcast but during the broadcast, being concise is paramount imho.

    I am new to this program so I would like to ask if you can verify this behavior and see if I am not making an error in setup or usage.  I do not have a camera around me now so I am testing with an mp4 clip.  Will the behavior be different with a live capture & a shot replay?  Thanks!

       

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      • CraigSModerator
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      • 9 days ago
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      Tim Polster You have the limit set to 10 minutes which is many times larger than the clip you need. You're going to see a much larger timeline in Preview than what you need. My example is 1 minute and that can be reduced further to seconds.

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  • Good catch as I made an error but I just restarted & changed it to 10 seconds and the same behavior exists.  The orange area decreases with every replay I make.  So the 1st replay takes up half of the gray area and the next one takes up less space...

     

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  • Tim Polster said:
    So the 1st replay takes up half of the gray area and the next one takes up less space...

     So it sounds like it's growing no matter what. I'll check that.

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  • Yes.  Thanks.

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      • CraigSModerator
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      • CraigS
      • 9 days ago
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      Tim Polster Would it be good if the selected replay shot automatically filled the timeline regardless of length so you don't see the excess?
      Perhaps that should be an option as some may want the additional material to add to the shot but others want just the selected shot for fine control.
      Developers are thinking about improvements with Replay. 

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  • For sports where you need quick replays, filling the timeline space would be ideal.  Then it is easier to grab the in point and adjust having some sliding real estate for precision.

    For example:  A football touchdown pass play happens, you mark the replay as the players are celebrating, slide the in point to just before the pass and go live with the clip at the appropriate time.  Having a large area helps you quickly and accurately slide the in point.  In this case, the gray area only gets in the way.

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      • CraigSModerator
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      • CraigS
      • 9 days ago
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      Tim Polster Thanks for the workflow details. We're investigating implementing the feature WIRE-19497

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