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3rd party VST plugin support in Wirecast

I woud really love to see 3rd party vst plugin support in Wirecast so we can use our favorite EQ, Compressor, limiter and metering plugins within Wirecast. 

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  • Greg Kuhnert 18 months, I can beat that...
    Date: 2014-02-06 <---- Yes, that is over 6 years ago.
    Case No: 288582 <---- From the old system!
    Name: Fonts still do not render correctly
    Forum Link: http://forum.telestream.net/forum/messageview.aspx?catid=44&threadid=14747 (No longer accessible)

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  • Matthew Potter 

    Matthew Potter said:
    18 months, I can beat that

    I am imagining the Crocodile Dundee line "Thats not a knife..... Thats a knife" ... but this time,

    "Thats not a bug... Thats a bug!"

    Greg Kuhnert

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  • It would be great to have this, but for my Mic only I use Logic Pro X and apply the AU (Plug-In) there, then feed the audio through to Wirecast.  It would be great to use a Limiter on the Master Audio though.

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  • Same here!

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  • I've opened up a feature request for Wirecast to do automatic volume adjustment natively inside of Wirecast., just like the Powair or Volume Rider plugins do. Please vote if you are interested: https://telestreamforum.forumbee.com/t/h7h8a9v

     

    FYI, I've been using the Powair plugin very successfully to do this for nearly a year now, and its improved my audio levels tremendously.  I'm using it in a non-Wirecast stream though, since Wirecast doesn't support 3rd party plugins.

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    • Ron Benditt no third party plugins are way better- vst3! Seriously.

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    • Craig McPherson I agree and plugins would definitely be my preference also - especially since I've been able to find good one that work for my purpose.  I get a sense that the Wirecast developers are reluctant to introduce 3rd party plugins into their environment since they could affect the streaming performance and they would have some support challenges with that.  Plus, there are cross-platform concerns as well.  I get all of those things, but at the end of the day, plugins would open up a new world of possibilities for everyone that we'll never see in a closed environment.  Just imagine if your favorite DAW (ProTools/Cubase/Logic/etc) took the approach that plugins would be detrimental to their walled environment!

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  • Ron Benditt said:
    they could affect the streaming performance

     They can and, depending on the plugins, the impact can be significant. 

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    • CraigS yes but the quality and variety of waves leaves me with no concern whatsoever 

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      Craig McPherson said:
      the quality and variety of waves leaves me with no concern

       Although we have to consider all users though. Of course, we could consider it with a caveat. We couldn't be specific because the demands vary with plugin and what else the system is doing.

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  • Many people use a VST/AU of their choice on the master channel, SonicState who do a weekly Podcast use V-Mix and put Izotope Ozone on the Master.  I use a Schwepps Omni Channel on my Voice in Logic and then a Limiter on the Master out from it with no siginifcant added latency.

    No, Wirecast is great for Video options, but for audio it's not up to par.  I did an 8 Hour show on Oct 10th in place of the physical event (something we are all increasingly doing) and I had a number of issues throughout.

    Link to my Stream - https://youtu.be/bzysljTb8NQ

     

    1.  Rendezvous.

    I had 9 Live Guests at different times and set/tested with them the evening before.  They were coming in at different times throughout but as it was a new link to rendezvous the following day as it oftens stops working, the settings I had for them kept changing, so I had to host the show, while changing their settings in real-time.  Selecting their audio but once selected to make live, their shot came up.

    All the settings for the Compressor I put on their voice were gone and of course with no way to even save a preset for any of the fx settings, I had to guess it.  Worst still, until they are Active and Live, you don't even see their audio channel to add anything.

    If there were the ability to add my own Plug-Ins I could use my Presets.  Also, to be able at least to put a Compressor/Limiter over the main audio out, then that would help.

    2.  Audio Mixer control. 

    I don't have the 4 Controllers that are in the Preferences, but have a lot of midi controllers by other manufacturers.  Throughout the stream some of the Guests Mic Management wasn't the best and I had no idea who it was coming from and had no way to practically mute someone.

    Why can't I have the ability to use and map my own Controller so I can mute someone.  It would help if a Mixer was available before Live, but really, we should be able to use a midi controller of our choice.

    3.  Audio Monitoring. 

    I use a Presonus Quantum as an audio interface and have to go through Logic and the feed through from Loopback to get audio into Wirecast.  It's too cumbersome, if I select the Presonus directly in Wirecast I can't set/change the buffers for the Quantum.  If I press the Monitoring button in wirecast, it comes out almost a second later, so I can't continue to listen as it puts me off while talking, hearing myself back a second later.

    So, I have to turn off the monitoring, but the problem with that is, if I load in a Video file, set it live, I can't hear the audio and have to guess when it's going to finish.

    4.  Lag.

    I have the latest 10 core iMac with 96gb Ram but running Wirecast for that amount of time (8 hours) it got more and more unresponsive over the course of the show.  I'd select a shot and it would take a few moments to be highlighted, the gap between selecting and it being highlighted got longer and longer throughout the 8 hours, until at about the 7th hour, I had to shut wirecast down and restart it while the Live Show was running...hardly professional and when it came back up, it worked as it should, no computer reboot required.

    5.  Audio Capture.

    Why hasn't the System Audio been updated to capture with the T2 chip, Loopback can do it.  This should be updated so I don't have to use 3rd Party software and is then added into wirecast under a seperate audio channel in the mixer.

    I fail to see why the abilty to add your own Plug-Ins hasn't been implemented other than deciding not wanting to do it.  At least gives us the ability to save Presets of the settings in the existing fx...this has all been asked for years ago.

    Is there are roadmap of development that could be outlines?  Live Streaming is going to be a bigger part of my (and others) Business model and i'd rather take the pain now and get a PC with V-Mix than wait years for Wirecast to catch up?

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  • Jamie Morden said:
    5.  Audio Capture. Why hasn't the System Audio been updated to capture with the T2 chip,

     We use System Audio Capture and Apple hasn't released an API for implementation and are ending support for system extensions which is how we previously did it.

    Jamie Morden said:
    Loopback can do it. 

     They're not directly capturing system sound. It's a bit different. You can use Loopback in Wirecast. You can also use Blackhole which is free. You may want to read this from our knowledge base written in four parts about this. We're certainly investigating how we might solve this but I can't say at this point whether a virtual audio cable would be the overall solution vs capture system sound.

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  • How can I still not solve this problem? Wirecast worse than the free program OBS. I'm using the Pro license, but I'm still very disappointed with many things.

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  • We're investigating this feature request WIRE-1236

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  • just adding my own little vote in the hopes of VST plugin support soon.

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  • I’ve been using Wirecast going on 3 years now and they have come a long way. When I have guests connect with me they all ask about it. I’m sure many sells as a result. I would still like to see VST plug-in support, seeing that Wirecast is at the professional level. My 2cents 

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      • CraigSModerator
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      • 11 mths ago
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      Will Johnson It's certainly has been a topic of discussion. 

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      • 11 mths ago
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      CraigS its one many of us welcome 

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  • What is the status on this request.? 36 votes is quite a lot.

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      • CraigSModerator
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      • CraigS
      • 10 mths ago
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      Jeroen We can't post a timeline on this yet. We're certainly aware of the interest.

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  • Any update on the status of this request? VSTs or AUs on a Mac would be great!

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      • Will Johnson
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      • 5 mths ago
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      Nick DeMarc , I sure hope so.

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  • Seriously, I can’t believe they haven’t done this yet it’s insane!

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  • It's in analysis. These related issues we are considering but we are looking at it.

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  • It's sad that the free live streaming software has VST support but the expensive one doesn't. There is literally only one glitch in the free software that hasn't caused me to switch over to it for our large events, all of our small events already run on the free software.

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      • CraigS
      • 5 mths ago
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      Ryan Turpin We hear you. Sorry.

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      • CraigSModerator
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      • CraigS
      • 5 mths ago
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      Ryan Turpin Is there a specific VST plugin or plugins you're using and are they from a specific developer?

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  • Waves plugins would simplify a lot of the lacking audio features within Wirecast. 

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  • Waves ABSOLUTELY!  This needs to be done!

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      • CraigSModerator
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      • CraigS
      • 4 mths ago
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      Craig McPherson Please don't forget to vote for this using the voting feature. The developers look at the totals, rather than individual posts in support.

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  • I did years ago

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      • CraigS
      • 4 mths ago
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      Craig McPherson I see now. 

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