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Export audio only files as native mp3

I'm actually shocked Screenflow doesn't have native support for this.  The current workaround is to import into iTunes and do the conversion there.  Really could use it for podcasting.

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  • What's you're workflow? AAC not supported?

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  • There are many workarounds. First the mp3 format is depreciated. Secondly for podcasting - and any other mp3 related workflow, software like Monkeytools Sound Grinder is a way better solution than iTunes. It let's you embed way more metadata, including multiple graphics to the mp3, which can be a good thing for podcasting.

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  • CraigS  I am more "concerned" the aiff is an export format and not BWav

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  • CraigS Hi Craig!  Here's what I'm currently doing.

    1. Importing audio through audacity into Screenflow.
    2. Exporting as mp4 with just audio (no video)
    3. Opening in iTunes, and converting to mp3.
    4. Importing into Anchor for distribution.
    5. Available on iTunes the next 24 hours.

    Is there a better way of going about it?

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  • Robert Skrobe Export AAC only. It's not clear why you need MP3 specifically. AAC is well supported in most programs that support MP3.

     

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  • Bo Astrup said:
    I am more "concerned" the aiff is an export format and not BWav

     But why? AIFF should work in most of the same programed that hand Broadcast WAV. Developers need to know a specific workflow requirement and how common it is.

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  • CraigS Ahh okay, so my flow should be:

     

    1. Importing audio through audacity into Screenflow.
    2. Exporting in AAC.
    3. Importing into Anchor for distribution.
    4. Available on iTunes the next 24 hours.

    Do I have that right?

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  • Robert Skrobe That should work. If Anchor doesn't support AAC let me know ASAP.

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  • CraigS It looks like it doesn't. Here's the reference page I'm looking at: https://help.anchor.fm/hc/en-us/articles/115001185452-Uploading-and-importing-audio-into-Anchor

    Specifically, it names the following files it supports:

    • mp3
    • m4a
    • wav
    • mpg

    And I know through painful experience that Apple does *not* like m4a files for podcasts.  None of mine would download or play in that format.

    I also bet the use a depreciated file format like mp3 for distribution purposes.  Since they support Soundcloud, Stitcher and other lesser known podcasting networks, they use the least common denominator.

    So it does look like I need that mp3 format after all. :)

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  • Robert Skrobe 
    Just in case they "silently" support AAC give it a try.

    Do submit the feature request pointing to Anchor's specs to show that you must meet their requirements.

    ScreenFlow Feature Request

    In the meantime if you must do a file conversion the best audio quality out of ScreenFlow is Lossless Audio Only which is uncompressed AIFF and then convert that to MP3 or WAV in the software of your choice.

    You can use the free Audacity to convert AIFF to either WAV (probably best choices) or MP3.

     

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    Audacity
     

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  • CraigS Got it, but I'd rather use Screenflow than Audacity.  I paid for the former, and I like the UI better.  Just sayin. :)

     

    I'll submit that feature request per your instructions up above.  Thanks for your time and attention on the topic!

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  • Robert Skrobe The developers do listen. You're welcome of course.

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  • CraigS I don't doubt that (re: developers).  I often think they aren't listened to enough, but that's a whole other tangent.  Part of the reason why I got into Design Sprints. 

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  • Robert Skrobe 👍

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  • I'd love this feature too, for podcasting and also for online courses where I upload audio as well as video as an option for students.

    1. We record our podcast in Zoom
    2. edit in Screenflow
    3. export mp4 and put it through Handbrake before upload to YouTube for use on our website
    4. export aiff, use Audacity to export to mp3 before upload to Libsyn. 

    Libsyn supports mp3 and m4a, but recommends mp3 for greatest compatibility with podcast directories.

    This is actually something that holds me back from recommending Screenflow to fellow podcasting writers. My "tribe" is mostly not very techy, and this problem adds too many steps for me to explain. :-)

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      Belinda 

      Belinda said:
      Libsyn supports mp3 and m4a

       ScreenFlow exports m4a. Our AAC preset is m4a
       

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      Belinda said:
      some directories don't support it.

      Are there any significant ones I can use to influence priority? 

      Our Internal Investigation Reference is FLOW-7178.
      While there are only 3 votes here over two years, internally we've actually had a fair number of requests for this.

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      CraigS Would it be to do with some people using old devices, and the directories wanting to ensure maximum compatibility? (It's not my area of expertise.)

      Apparently Spotify takes only mp3, so that would be a significant one for every podcaster. No podcaster will deliberately exclude themselves from Spotify.

      I actually didn't know any of these things about the backend until now - I simply followed a step-by-step tutorial to get my podcast up and running six months ago. I would suspect that for many podcasters, their area of expertise is NOT the tech behind their podcast. :-) So if all the tutorials out there are saying "produce an mp3", that's what they'll do. 

      I've learned some things reading this (which you already knew, I'm sure) but it does also provide some answers to your question.

      https://podnews.net/article/mp3-aac-m4a-podcasts

      • "Spotify and Deezer require MP3 format files, and do not import AAC files at all. For this reason alone, you probably still need to be producing MP3 versions of your podcast.
      • Amazon Alexa’s News Briefing service also requires MP3 files. It’s unlikely you’ll use this, but worth knowing.
      • Dynamic content insertion (used, mainly, for ads) typically don’t accept AAC format files."

      Also, worth noting that if you're thinking we'll prefer AAC because sound quality is higher, that's not always a compelling case for some podcasters. For example, we record ours on Zoom and my two co-hosts don't even have pro mics as yet. Our focus is on content, and getting it done and out there rather than waiting till we have all the resources to do a studio-perfect job. As a former radio journo I sometimes cringe at our sound quality, but I soldier on, and hope we'll improve on the technical side over time. There are certainly podcasters who care a lot about sound quality, but also a lot of us who keep our eyes on the content, and have audiences happy with that.

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      Belinda Thanks. Exactly the kind of information the developers need to know.

      In the past .mp3 required licensing fees paid by the developers (us). We're investigating whether this has changed and how we should handle it. 

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      CraigS Oh, that would be great if it became possible. But I also understand if I need to keep doing my workaround. :-)

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      Belinda I thought I'd mention that Apple Music (and Apple GarageBand) can convert audio to MP3 (although Apple Quicktime can not). I just thought I'd mention methods that don't involve third party (non-Apple) apps. 

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      CraigS Thank you. I wouldn't have thought of some of those.

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      Belinda You're welcome of course. Odd that Apple Music supports MP3 but Quicktime does not. We're investigating the request to add this.

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  • Just ran into this issue yesterday too. I installed Audacity on my macbook pro but it was very clunky so I decided to use ScreenFlow 9.0.2 because I know my way around it better. I was expecting to be able to export to .mp3 but when it wasn't an option went for .m4a. Then tried to upload to 'SoundSlice' (soundslice.com). They do not allow .m4a.

     

    Please put .mp3 as an export option.  Depreciated or not its still far more common than .m4a in the software/devices that I use.

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  • michael ussher said:
    Depreciated or not its still far more common than .m4a in the software/devices that I use.

     Can you specifically list those devices? Can you confirm they do not support .m4a (AAC)?

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    • CraigS The main thing I want .mp3 for is for SoundSlice, but as for devices, my audiobook player is the Cowon J3 and it doesn't like .m4a files either.

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      michael ussher Thanks for noting that.

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