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Multi Audio Output

It's great to have a monitor mix so that you can hear everything that's being recorded. However, when building an enterprise studio centered around Wirecast, we often need the ability to send the audio from media or other content within Wirecast to specific output devices. A professional example is having a studio built and needing to hear the B-roll or video footage audio in studio without the microphones coming through those same speakers (causing a feedback loop). Audio would be routed to a secondary soundcard (or digital soundcard via ASIO).This is pivotal and ideal to the growth of Wirecast as a true enterprise/professional platform.

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  • I do (all) my audio in an external mixer. The wirecast output is send into it as a source like all the others. I use a bus output from the mixer to feed into Wirecast. That way you have all control in the mixer and just need to select what is send to Wirecast. This way you have all options including video clips sound etc that play inside of wirecast. I use another bus to the IEM system. Great flexibility that way.

    One concern I would have is the UI stability to use it as a real corporate video mixer. I have ruined my first streams (and customers) with a frozen UI. Hardware mixers are more reliable but htere are some reliable software options out there as well.

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  • Jens Jarke +1

    Audio control and routing in Wirecast (and all software based video mixers) are not capable of anything close to what hardware can. Invest in a good mixer that you can mix minus into a USB audio interface. Being able to control audio levels separately to yourself, a booth and the stream(s) alone will be worth it. Especially if you're doing a studio.

    This will also give you the ability to add gates and compression to mics, if needed due to how people talk, without impacting CPU or processing time.

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  • The feature set with digital hardware mixers is very good. I like the auto mix when I do panel discusions. That allows me to focus on the video switching and let the audio do some kind of magic automation without me need to move faders.

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  • Jens Jarke Nice setup! 

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  • Matthew Potter Agreed! We use Focusrite Scarletts in our video podcast studios. 

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  • You can do this using the "map" feature - tho "map" really needs some adjustable default settings to do this well.

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  • Bill B. What "map" feature are you referring to in order to map individual assets? 

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  • Using the  "Multi-Track Input Mapper" or "map".  Its under "Audio" in the individual audio/video assets file setting(left pan) if your not familiar with it.  Using map you can make up to 8 different audio Tracks/mixes going to different streams.  Choose your "1"only live output Track in: Window - "Audio Mixer" under "Audio Track Selection".  I Should add Its only good for one of the Tracks

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  • Bill B. That's what I thought you were referencing. Unfortunately, that's not what we are trying to accomplish. We need to send the audio of a specific asset (intro video in example) to an additional monitor (sound card in this case) for the house (studio) to hear. We don't need a separate program out stream/track per say. Thanks for the idea though. 

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  • Garry Lee - The functionality you are requesting is to assign the tracks in the channel map to specific outputs. If you could do that, you would have the flexibility to do exactly what you are requesting. There was another recent thread on this topic... Based on the response, don't hold your breath... 

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  • Greg Kuhnert It may, in part, depend on the interest and demand for supporting multiple sound cards or working out how to do this through USB which is a separate hardware path.

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  • CraigS said:
    It may, in part, depend on the interest and demand

    Judging by the fact that this post has one of the higher vote counts... I think the people have spoken.

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  • Greg Kuhnert speak more 😉

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  • Greg Kuhnert I think you are getting caught up on semantics. I don't care to assign tracks in the channel map to specific outputs. I aim to assign assets in the asset manager to specific audio monitoring outputs. they don't need to record onto a track (in which the track is set to a specific output). But if either way worked, my issue would be resolved. 

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  • Garry Lee said:
    I don't care to assign tracks in the channel map to specific outputs. I aim to assign assets in the asset manager to specific audio monitoring outputs. they don't need to record onto a track (in which the track is set to a specific output). But if either way worked, my issue would be resolved. 

    We're talking about the same thing, but using a different route to get there. In many audio mixers, you can assign channels to a bus (like tracks in Wirecast). Each of those bus's (or tracks) can be assigned to output destinations, which may include either a live broadcast or to a physical output. What I am describing will do 100% what you are after, and make sense logically - comparing to the physical world of how it would work with hardware equivalent devices.

    GK

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  • Greg , I understand completely. That was the purpose of my last post.

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  • I can thing of using an external player (VLC). NDI output into wirecast and Dante Via to send the sound where you like.

    Some other software vendors you can route the audio sources at busses and send these busses to available devices in the system.

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  • Jens Jarke said:
    Some other software vendors you can route the audio sources at busses and send these busses to available devices in the system.

     I'm certain you've made that feature request. Make sure the developers know the other software as well. 😉

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  • Jens Jarke We have an external (outside of WireCast) workaround to send specific workstation audio to our house speakers and to WireCast on the same workstation.

     

    Hopefully our requested feature ends up in the next rev. That would benefit all of our clients. 

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  • Audio outside of wirecast is definitely the best option for more complex setups, agree 100%.

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  • CraigS said:
     I'm certain you've made that feature request. Make sure the developers know the other software as well. 😉

     To be honest, no. It was the "others".

    And, making DEV aware of the competition is hopefully superfluous. You should know who they are and what features they offer.

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